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Saturday, July 25, 2015

MATH ABOUT BELIEVING IN GOD

When I lived in Ventura, I had a very nice and patient (with me) caregiver, who doesn't exchange emails with me anymore - for her own reasons - we used to often talk about her passion to go to Mass every morning at 4 am, she's been doing so for 10+ years and I called her - besides sista - a catholic extremist because we had plenty long discussions about God, its existence and other religions, actually my brother in law told me once that her own strength of mind is very close to mine and for this reason I'm better off without her help.
Truth is that - much like myself - she's the sole bread-provider in her whole (large) family and thanks to my ability to stimulate self-confidence by example she's incorporated her desire to help unfortunate ones like me, while bringing out the word of Jesus.
I guess that I used to express my rage about my (too) many losses by sounding like I didn't feel God's care and protection for me and she mentioned plus encouraged my learning and understanding of what a French philosopher of the 17th century had expressed in an almost arithmetical way of reasoning:

God exists = +1
God doesn't exist = -1
I live as believer = +1
I live as NON- believer = -1
Someone lives as believer and God does exist = +2
Someone lives as NON- believer and God exists  = 0
Someone lives as believer and God doesn't exist = 0
Someone lives as NON-believer and God doesn't exist = -2
It's clear that to score +2, is best while -2 is worst, while scoring 0 means nothing, I'm personally convinced that the zeroes mean that your soul will be Idling (or eternal suspension in nothing, that to me is true eternal hell).
What I find funny is that when I tried to explain to my good philosopher atheist friend Iacopo, he immediately got back to me with this reply:

 I answer to you Carlo with another problem.
Suppose you have a thousand EU, and no more than that.
Then I come and say to you: "If you give me your thousand EU, in a year I come back and I'll return you a million."
You could reply: "But how can I trust that you will return in a year?"
I could say:


  1. If you trust me and I never come back, you lose a thousand EU.
  2. If you trust me and I come back, you gain 999,000 EU.
  3. If you don't trust me and I disappear , you earn the thousand EU that you do not lose.
  4. If you don't trust me and I come back, you lose 999,000 EU that you would have earned.
Since there are only these 4 options, your distrust makes you risk losing 999,000 EU, but if you trust me you have the chance to win. It's true that if you are wrong you risk losing a thousand EU, but if I'll promise you a million, therefore you should at least try! or not? 

Would you trust me? Would you give me a thousand EU? Even if you don't know me at all? Because this is the situation with religion.
In the end, nobody ever speaks directly with God, but with other men who try to convince you to act like them, you suggest "because it's the will of God." Sometimes you can agree, for example, to feed the hungry and help those who are ill, but sometimes you really cannot, like when you push yourself to the holy war, or only to endure the injustices done by bullies because, according to them, we shouldn't judge others (especially the powerful) but just in the case we think that God will punish them. Because in the end that's why we are forced a religion. "Be good and bear". Bullying and injustice of whoever is talking? so? Is it the same as believing in "their" God?

I think that even if God existed, it shouldn't care if someone believes or doesn't believe in him, what counts is to behave as the inner conscience suggests, trying to leave the world a little better than how it was found. And this goes for everyone, believer or not.
I just want to say that what Iacopo says here in the end finds me in total agreement because - even if God doesn't exist - it's very important not to ever hurt someone else and leave our world a little better after having lived an entire (short or long)  life.

  1.  http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/pascals-wager.htm
  2. http://infidels.org/library/modern/theism/wager.html
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
  4. http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/theistic-proofs/pascals-wager/
  5. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/
  6. http://atheism.about.com/od/argumentsforgod/a/pascalswager.htm
  7. http://www.religioustolerance.org/pascal_w.htm




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